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Get Out of The Boat: Why We Hit Record

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Life gets busy fast—work, screens, sleep, repeat. We hit record to interrupt the autopilot and build what we were missing: a faith-driven space for men who want to lead well, love their families, and stop settling for ordinary. We share our stories—ministry, military, fatherhood—and how a simple small group became a brotherhood.

We unpack Matthew 14 and Peter stepping out of the boat: courage isn’t the absence of waves, it’s walking anyway. Peter walked before fear pulled him under—a reminder that pressure and doubt often mean you’re moving. We talk excellence over perfection, time with God, avoiding “vending machine faith,” and why self-leadership starts at home. If you lead yourself at a four, you won’t lead your family at a ten.

Uncommon Man is real stories, biblical truth, and practical steps you can use now. Next week we dive into self-leadership. If you’re ready to step out of the boat, we’re walking with you.

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Speaker 1:

Welcome to the Uncommon Man Podcast. We are your host. I am Devin Jeffreys, alongside a very good friend of mine. Jon Pearce. Jon, it is a great pleasure to be here doing this with you today. And for the very, very long, foreseeable future, as long as the good Lord allows. How are you today? I am great. How are you, Devin? Miserable. No, I'm just kidding. I'm doing great, man. I'm excited to be here. I'm excited to go along this journey uh with you guys and what we do and the whole purpose of what this podcast is going to be about. But we're going to get into all that later. Jon, why don't you tell the world a little bit about yourself?

Speaker:

Sure. So I don't really like talking about myself. So here's some bullet points. I have two kids. Drew, my son, he's six. He's literally like a miniature me. We wore matching shirts to church this past Sunday. That's weird. He wanted to. He's six, dude. He if he wants to wear matching shirts with dad, he gets to wear matching shirts with dad. Okay. Point blank, period. I have a daughter who's 12.

Speaker 1:

Did she wear a matching shirt?

Speaker:

No. She talked about it. She was like, man, I could have worn my matching shirt, but she didn't. I don't I don't think she had one. I think she outgrewed the one that she had that matching. Anyway, it doesn't matter. Um I was I I grew up in in church. My dad's a Baptist pastor. I left home when I joined the military. Gone for I don't know, ten plus years. Moved back close to home. I'm in Alabaster now, so you were on a boat. A few of them. I was on more after I got out of the Navy than I was while I was funny enough. Did some DOD stuff afterwards went all over the world. Um yeah, now I have a boring job.

Speaker 1:

And I don't know man, the back of your truck says surveillance on it. People probably think you're like an undercover cop or something like that, like staking out of residence.

Speaker:

I doubt it.

Speaker 1:

Am I sure?

Speaker:

Anyway, um yeah, I'm dating someone who I've been dating for quite a long time. Um it's not quite a long time. She's fantastic. It's been several, it's been a few months. Yeah. It's been a few months. It feels like a long time. Yeah, that's how you know she's fantastic. Um, yeah, there's your bullet points about me.

Speaker 1:

All right. Well, uh, I am like I said earlier, my name's Devin. I am married to uh my absolute best friend in life. I'm sorry that's not you, Jon. It is uh indeed Brittany. She is the uh the mother of my one and a half children because as we sit here today, uh I have a three-year-old daughter. Uh her name is Ariel, not named after the mermaid, but like the mermaid. Like the mermaid, yeah. She absolutely loves the water and everything to do with it. But hold on, does she like the mermaid? Ariel, like the Disney princess. She's never actually sat down and watched the whole thing. Dude, you gotta uh that's between her and her mother, anyways. Um then the other half a kid that I have right now is growing still. Uh as we record this, um my wife is eight months pregnant, and um, here in about a month, we will bring her second child into this world, uh, another baby girl. Her name is gonna be Blakely. Um I'm truly, truly excited to see like how how she fits into this crazy dynamic that our family already is, and uh it's truly an honor and a blessing. I did um I did 10 plus years in ministry, uh being in and out and involved. It was something I always knew that that the Lord was calling me to do. Um spent some time working in church work, and then now presently where we sit is um I I lead a a small group within our church, which is Cultivate Church here in Alabaster, Alabama. And uh it is called Fatherhood, and it's really just a podcast that uh or I mean a small group that is um look, we're here doing a podcast. It's an easy mistake, okay? Get off me. Um it is a it is a small group that is that's designed just to be able to help dads out and provide that resource. But uh we'll get into actually how that all that bled into this uh into this podcast called the Uncommon Man. Um, but yeah, that's that's really who I am.

Speaker:

All right, awesome. So we're gonna do these episodes once a week, uh every Thursday starting January 1st, 2026. Yes, sir. Um so let's uh let's talk about what we're doing here. Uh we're both super thrilled to be doing this, I think. A little maybe a little nervous about it, which I think is a good thing.

Speaker 1:

But um if you're nervous, it's because you care.

Speaker:

And we both definitely care um a lot about this. Um we're pouring ourselves pouring ourselves into it for sure. Um so how did this podcast come about, Devin?

Speaker 1:

It came up came about in uh a very unique set of circumstances and um it really kind of came uh from the direction of us uh having that small group that I mentioned. That small group was born out of uh a des uh uh not a desire, but a a weakness, a feeling that I felt, so to speak, where uh I I had just gone on vacation with my family. And if you know anything about me, you know I've never won uh that is short for words. And I I love to talk. I have no problem uh with it. I'm very comfortable in it. Can confirm. And um my wife and I are heading back from from vacation, and my daughter is um six, seven, eight months old, something like that. And uh when we're heading back, I'm not saying a word. And my wife looks over at me and she goes, All right, what's wrong? And I'm like, how do you do that? Like, how do you just know? And and she goes, Devin, I'm I'm your wife. Uh it's my responsibility to know whenever you're not yourself. And so I just told her, I said, uh, if you really want me to be brutally honest with you, I feel like I suck at this thing called being a dad. She goes, What? Why? And she spent the next like I I would then spend a little bit of time explaining why. And she came back and she said all the reasons I wasn't, and then she said, But you know what? I have to believe you're not the only one to ever feel that way. And that was when it kind of hit me that that is one of the tools that the enemy loves to use for everybody out there. I think it's probably the his biggest one in his bag, where he goes after you to make you feel like what you're dealing with and what you're going through is only you.

Speaker:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Like you're the only one to ever feel like you suck at being a father. Like you're the only one that ever feels like you're you're terrible at being a husband or or or being a leader or whatever the you know, insert whatever your situation is. And uh she said, So I think you need to do a small group about it. And I was like, Yeah, okay, cool. Sounds great. And uh so I did it, and it's not really such a small group anymore, I guess. Um every week it's like 10 to 15 dudes at at the house, and we're just sitting back talking life. And so uh then the Lord put it on my heart about a year ago that that I was supposed to do a podcast, and I went to a very dear friend of mine, and I was like, hey, we are supposed to do this podcast. Have you ever Jon? Let me just ask you real quick, like, have you ever heard something that that the Lord was telling you to do and you twisted just a small version of it and then spoiler alert, it didn't work out, or am I the only one to ever do that?

Speaker:

You're definitely not the only one to ever do that. I can't think of a specific instance that I well I did in this case.

Speaker 1:

I did. And uh I went to a friend of mine who's got his own podcast, and I was like, hey, we're supposed to do this podcast. And he goes, You are I'm not. And I'm like, wait, what? How does that even make sense? Like, you already have a podcast, you know what you're doing, you already have the equipment. What are we talking about here? Why are you doing this to me? And so uh for the next several months, I w I kept going after him about it and was like, Come on, man, we got to do this podcast. And he goes, You're supposed to do it, not me. So I was just like, Man, what in the world? And then um, I just finally I said, Okay, you know what, God, I I I know you're telling me to do this, but I don't know when or how this is gonna look like, what when or how this is gonna happen. And then I'm at a men's ministry event with our church, and you did something you've never done before.

Speaker:

Yeah, so basically God had put it on my heart to do a men's podcast. I didn't know at the time that it was God putting it on my heart because I wasn't listening properly, I suppose. But um I thought about it once and then was like, that's a that's I don't have enough on my plate. Like I do um tons of, as you know, tons of media things at uh at the church. I do I have my own side business that I run, and then as well as a full-time job. So I was like, and two kids. I was like, I got enough on my plate. Um then I thought about it again, and I was like, who would I even do that with? It was like a Devin immediately. I knew it was I was like, probably Devin. If he'd do it, I was like Devin, I'd probably do it. Anyway, probably eventually. And then we get and then and then we get to that that moment, and you were talking to somebody, and I just walked up to you, and without my brain's permission, out of my mouth comes the words, hey, we're doing a podcast.

Speaker 1:

Completely interrupted the other other conversation, which in the years that I've known you, you have never done.

Speaker:

And I I stood there shocked at myself. And I was like, Well, why did I do it? Well, it's out there now. Well, you didn't have permit your brain did you didn't give your brain permission. My brain didn't give my mouth permission.

Speaker 1:

Well, yeah, your brain didn't give your mouth permission to but it came out of my mouth.

Speaker:

Um, that's that was God. And that was 100% the Lord. Yeah, and then the next day, um, I'm sitting, I'm driving, and I'm dwelling on this thing that I told you, and I'm like, all right. Then I find, ironically enough, a podcast that I haven't listened to in quite some time. Um, it's like a daily podcast they put every uh five days a week, they release one, and it's like a five-minute thing. I look at the title and it said, Get out of the boat. And immediately I was like, Great, thanks. Thanks for that, and then I threw it down and um I listened to it and pretty sure I sent it to you right after that.

Speaker 1:

You did, and so you tell me that we're gonna do this podcast together, that the Lord has put it on your heart for us to do this, and um there was a lot that kind of came after that, uh, as far as I won't I won't necessarily call it fear, but just hesitations that we had, and that's that that was literally the Lord speaking to you about getting out of the boat, is of course in reference to the what a leap of faith. That's right. A leap of faith, but also in in the story in the Bible of uh Peter walking on the water towards Jesus, which we'll break that down here in just a little bit. But there was a lot of hesitations uh for it, but uh I I think I think now, Jon, uh like why why another podcast?

Speaker:

Why indeed? Because like who are we, like two 30-something year old dudes sitting here having a conversation, because there's not enough of that in the world, right?

Speaker 1:

Right.

Speaker:

But who are we to sit here and tell you how to live your life? We're nobody, we're in this just trying to be better men, better dads, better husbands, boyfriend in my case, whatever. Um better better better leaders, better people, yeah, right. And we want to share what we have learned as well as the journey that we're gonna go through doing this with everyone. Um we we want to settle for we don't want to settle for ordinary. That's right. We don't want to just be whatever society tells us we should be. Because generally speaking, news flash, that's wrong.

Speaker 1:

And there's a lot of that. There's a lot of people in this world. Maybe you're out there and you're listening to this and you're going, man, I've settled for ordinary. Uh and and truth be told, uh, that's okay for now. But now at this point, it's time to flip that switch.

Speaker:

Yeah, you can't go back and change anything. Like, if you've been passive in your life, you can't go back and change that. But like maybe, maybe, maybe for someone, it's time to step up and grow up hair and stop it.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and I think the other the other part of it is like the other purpose behind it is is gonna be to help men um in walking with Christ to live an uncommon type of life. You know, and I want to hit on that for just a second because when we were talking about this podcast and what we were gonna name it, one of the things that we discussed was okay, what is it about this that's going to make it different? And I I believe it, I don't know if it was your girlfriend or my wife that said uh that it was it was such an uncommon thing that we're doing as far as who we are as men to be able to do this. Because like you said, we're it's not like look, we don't have all of our stuff together, right? I mean, uh our lives are not total dumpster fires. They may be there may be a dumpster fire burning, but it's not a total dumpster fire, right? Um small trash can on the corners, small trash can, right? And so uh we wanted to to provide for our listeners another resource, and or really a primary resource, because if you look at it and you go out, I I was thinking back to when uh when I found out I was gonna be a father, right? And every man out there can relate and put yourself back in that mindset of oh crap. And the amount of fear and emotions that ran through your body. And I remember going uh online to to look at like what podcasts are out there about this for fathers. Nothing. None that were even active. And then I started looking, okay, what about books? Maybe a handful. What is no resources? Because being a man in today's world in 2026, when this is released, being a man in today's world in 2026 is completely different than what it was even when you and I were growing up. Would you not agree? Oh, yeah. So then therefore, there are limited resources for men to be able to do that and to be able to advance and to be the leaders that God's called them to be. And so what's happened is you have men that have settled for status quo, they have settled settled for ordinary because there's no resources, there's no help, and they feel like again, they're by themselves.

Speaker:

Yeah, they're they don't have if if all you're bombarded with is whatever society's telling you at that present moment, then that's just what you end up with. Like there's a saying pretty old. Um good men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, weak men create hard times, and hard times create strong men.

Speaker 1:

I've literally never heard that before.

Speaker:

I'm surprised. I haven't, that's good though. Regardless, we're in the we're in a the phase of that cycle right now where we have weaker men, and we need to we they need to step up to be leaders. Not not everybody. I'm not that I'm not making a blanket statement here. But generally speaking, like guys would rather go to work, come home, maybe play with their kid for five minutes, watch football, drink beer, play a video game. Whatever it is people do, watch TV. I don't know. I'm too busy to do anything, but right.

Speaker 1:

But then and then they get up the next morning and they go do it all over again.

Speaker:

Yeah, Groundhog Day.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. And it's just kind of like at some point you begin to ask yourself as a man, I feel like, what the heck is even the point here? Yeah, what are you doing? Yeah, like life was life was simple here, and you start to wish and whatever. When in reality, all we need to do is to simply live a more uncommon life than what the societal norms state that we're supposed to counterculture, if you will.

Speaker:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

And so I think as we kind of dive into this, you know, we want we want to help uh our listeners out there to strive for a life of excellence. That there's a you know, that's one of the things that our church is really, really great at is they offer a place where everything is to be done with an attitude of excellence and uh an opportunity for people to live out their gifts, their talents, their abilities, their faith, and to live a life on purpose. Right.

Speaker:

And excellence, not perfection. Exactly. Two very different things, huge. And to expound on what you said a little bit, there's nothing more disappointing than seeing someone that has the potential to do great things, but they're not they're not doing anything. They're just why do you think that is though?

Speaker 1:

Comfortability. Yeah. It's almost like like the brain is the brain is naturally wired. We know this. The brain is naturally wired to be comfortable. Yeah, that's why anything hard to run from pain. Yeah, that's right. That's why it it in anything that's difficult in life, people don't want to do, right? It is difficult to make time to go to the gym. That's why I probably don't go to the gym. Okay. So it because it's difficult. Now I am working to towards that. I am working to change that aspect about me, but we are wired for a sense of comfortability, and what's happened is we have lost sight of what the man's responsibilities are in this world. Comfort has killed us. That's right. Like it will. That's right. And as we've lost sight, though, of that and we've gotten comfortable, what's happened is a culture of weak-minded men have been produced. And so then you have people that uh that have no idea what their true purpose is, they don't know how. I th I think it's this. You said you said earlier that it's it's men who who have so much talent abilities or something along those lines. Potential, yeah, that was your word. And but they don't use it, they don't embrace it. I think the reason for a lot of them, they just simply don't know how. I think there is fear, there is hesitation, and we're gonna break that down here in just a second of what the Bible says about it. But they just simply don't know how, and I don't think that there's enough resources.

Speaker:

Yeah, a lot of people, when they're like, Well, how do I find my purpose in life? They think that's just gonna be this like random revelation that they're just gonna be like, This is why I'm on this earth. No, you're not gonna find your purpose by someone just handing it to you. You have to figure out what it is.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker:

And some people sadly, so sadly, just never do that.

Speaker 1:

But you know, one of the things that I think hinders a lot of people, especially men, in taking that next step for leadership is uh is fears and hesitations. And you talked earlier about the podcast that you listened to um in the title of that episode, and obviously the title of ours was Get Out of the Boat.

Speaker:

Yeah, something along those lines, yeah.

Speaker 1:

Right. This is a story that's primarily found in in Matthew chapter 14. Uh, and I wanted you to kind of read that and then talk about how that kind of bled into uh this whole podcast and the uncommon man coming to be born and and what it is.

Speaker:

So in Matthew's account, uh Jesus feeds the five thousand, and then we get to verse 22, Jesus walking on the water. Immediately he made the disciples get into the boat and go before him to the other side while he dismissed the crowds. And after he had dismissed the crowds, he went up on the mountain by himself to pray. Take note of that. He went by himself to pray and be alone with the Father. Uh, when evening came, he was there alone. But the boat by this time was long away from the land, beaten by the waves, for the wind was against them. And in the fourth fourth watch of the night he came to them walking on the sea. But when the disciples saw him walking on the sea, they were terrified and said, It's a ghost, and they cried out in fear. But immediately Jesus spoke to them, saying, Take heart, it is I, do not be afraid. And Peter answered him, Lord, if it is you, command me to walk uh to come to you on the water. He said, Come. So Peter got out of the boat and walked on the water and came to Jesus. But when he saw the wind, he was afraid, and beginning to sink, he cried out, Lord, save me. Jesus immediately reached out his hand and took hold of him, saying to him, O you of little faith, why do you doubt? And when they got out of the boat, the wind ceased, and those in the boat worshiped him, saying, Truly, you are the Son of God. Now, what really spoke to me about get out of the boat was like I I believe I mentioned a few minutes ago, a leap of faith. Like it I needed to have faith that this isn't that I I can in fact do this. I'm not incapable, I'm not whatever was going through my mind. There's a million things. I had every excuse in the book to not do what the Lord There's already so many podcasts, there's already so many people doing this and that. Yeah, there's a there's a million excuses. But Peter took a leap of faith, and what really gets me about that is Peter had enough faith to walk on the water. Yeah. He sees the waves crashing around him, he gets scared, starts to sink. And Jesus says, Oh, you of little faith. Peter had more faith than anyone I've ever met in my life.

Speaker 1:

He had more faith than the other 11 disciples sitting in the boat. Indeed. I mean, but but to but let's go back a little bit, a couple of verses, because in that he says that uh mind you, he had just fed the 5,000. I have to believe Jesus was a little tired. Okay. And he had just led the five or just fed them uh through a miracle. And then it says that he went away to pray by himself. And that I think is something that is easily skipped over. But here's why I want to bring it to your attention today is because I think that for us, if we truly want to see a move of God in our lives, we're tired of status quo, we want things to change, we want things to be better. We have to carve out time of our day. Everybody gets the same 24 hours. Okay, but we have to carve out time to get alone and spend that one-on-one time between you and the Lord.

Speaker:

And don't make excuses not to.

Speaker 1:

That's right. Because I f I feel like this. It's it's you say, Well, I can't afford to do that because I don't have the time. I I would argue that you can't afford not to. Okay. You can't afford not to spend that time alone between you and the Lord the same way that Jesus did, because this isn't the only story that we see this in scripture, where Jesus left everybody, and then he comes through the clouds, and here is um here's the sight of him walking on the water, and there is one man that has been with him that had the courage, the kahunas, whatever you want to call it, to say, okay, if that's you, tell me to come to you. Jesus calls him out on the carpet. All right, cool. Come on, bro. Right? Everybody else was too chicken stuffed, so they all stayed in the boat. And so, well, it's a G-rated podcast, so I can't, you know, you know what I mean? All right. So everybody, but everybody else was too was too chicken stuffed to even get out of the boat. They finally, or Peter finally gets out of the boat, and he is literally walking on the water. And then what does the Bible say? That the waves begin to crash around him. I feel like those waves are very symbolic and can can be can be compared to the things in our lives that hinder us from reaching our ultimate destination or our ultimate goal. Absolutely. You know, the fear, the wave, I have to believe that the it's like one of them is probably the wave of doubt, the wave of you're not good enough. Fear, the wave of fear, the wave of disbelief, the wave of actually trusting the Lord to carry you through whatever season it is that you're walking through.

Speaker:

Distractions that take your eyes off the Lord.

Speaker 1:

That's right. And then what happened? Jesus began to sink.

Speaker:

Jesus didn't sink.

Speaker 1:

Oh, I'm sorry, Peter, yeah, you're right. Peter Peter be Peter began to sink and he reached out to Jesus. God, wouldn't that be the ultimate pot twist? Um Peter began to sink, and he he cried out after the waves have come, after he was the only one that had the stuff to get out of the boat. He cried out and he said, Lord save me. The problem is this for most people today, that is exactly what happens. They get scared by the waves of life that are coming in, beating the stew out of them. They get they have their moments of doubt. You're not good enough, you're not living their purpose, you're by yourself, you didn't go to church this last week. Oh. And and and then what happens? Everybody goes, oh, but Lord help me. Lord help me. God save me in the seas. And never mind the fact that I put myself here, but God save me out of this storm because I'm sinking.

Speaker:

To try to pray themselves out of a situation that they behave themselves into. Oh, that's good. That's it. And so that doesn't work.

Speaker 1:

Exactly. But then what they become or or what God becomes to them is simply this a vending machine. My challenge for the people listening to this is to not have God be a vending machine God. Where you go, you put your little slot of prayer in, and that's that. And then maybe God bails you out of that, uh, out of that season of your life, and you're like, all right, cool, thanks, big guy. I got it from here. I'll put another you don't. I'll put another quarter in of prayer whenever I'm ready. And my whole thing, my whole question here is what could your life look like if you just simply surrendered and said, Okay, Lord, I trust you. I trust you to walk this out in my marriage. I trust you to walk this out in my relationship, in my relationship with my children, whatever it is, what could your life look like if you just simply let go and let God? Right. And the truthfully or better yet, sorry, I don't mean to cut you off. Better yet, what could your life look like if you just got out of the freaking boat?

Speaker:

And truthfully, like we want we want to be able to live the way the Bible tells us to. So earlier you mentioned that you were looking for resources on fatherhood. There's really not that much out there. No. Especially specifically for fatherhood.

Speaker 1:

And my wife found one book that had um um male sperm on the cut on the front of it. Okay, that's enough. And it said No, no, no, no, no, because now it just sounds weird. Now it just sounds weird. And it just said, dude, you're gonna be a dad. And I was like, are you are you serious? Like it just had the picture of the male anyways.

Speaker:

So, anyways, there's not a lot out there. However, we have the Bible. Turns out pretty much anything you need to know is in there. Bible is a good idea. Now, no, no, no, it's not gonna tell you how like specifics on fatherhood and like how to change a diaper. No, it's not gonna tell you any of that stuff. But as far as I'm sure you did. I'm not accusing you of not, but how about we just follow biblical examples of being men, which newsflash is gonna be polar opposite 99.9% of the time from what society tells us.

Speaker 1:

Uncommon.

Speaker:

Exactly. Exactly. And we we don't want to settle for ordinary. We want to be not passive little sissies. Yeah, because King Ahab, don't do that.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, because I I think the reality is is um we have created a culture of men who are giant sissies. Or I'm sorry, not men who are sissies, boys. Yeah, old boys, yeah, yeah, who are absolute sissies, and oh well, my feelings got hurt here, so I'm gonna b again. The question goes back to what could your life look like if you just simply got out of the freaking boat, took that leap of faith, and said, you know what, God, I trust you. I trust you in my marriage, I trust you whenever I lost my job, I trust you whenever this falls apart, I trust you whenever my kids say or do things that hurt me. I trust you. What could your life look like if you truly trusted him? And here would be my one of the biggest pieces of advice that I would have for this shocker, very, very like I'm going to blow your mind with this. Go to church. Yeah, find you a good Bible-believing church, a church that's not afraid to hurt to hurt some feelings. That's one thing that I love about our church. We will say the things, and it's not like, well, we hurt your feelings, all right. Well, yeah, and here's what the Bible says about it, and we can't refute that.

Speaker:

Right. You you you can't. And the the reason go to church instead of doing what COVID taught us to do and watch it on TV. God, I mean you need a community of people around you. As a man, you need you need a group of men that you can rely on that you can tell tell talk to people talk to people about like you said a minute ago, oh, they hurt my feelings. Like in some cases, dude, just shut up, get over it. In other cases, you you need to be able to express those things. Like you can't you can't bottle things in. You've got to have someone in your life that you can that can call you out on your crap for one and two, you can call and vent to and trust that person to either tell you, shut up and get on with life, or dude, that sucks. I'm here with you and praying for you.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, you need to have in other words, this it's it's men that'll stand in the gap with you. Exactly. When when the waves are crashing around you, they're the men or the people in your lives. Maybe there's ladies that are listening to this, but there are people that are that need to be in your life that will call you out on the carpet, that will tell you, no, sorry, you're wrong here. Right. Sorry, that's not what you want to hear. But I but I think the problem is this is we've created a culture that's you do you, I'm gonna do me, and we don't we don't pay any attention to the biblical principles about what any of this means.

Speaker:

So that's what we want to that's what we want to dive into here. We want to pull out those biblical principles, those examples. What does the Bible say about this, this, this, and this? What does society tell us about this, this, this, and this, and what do we do about it?

Speaker 1:

But there right, exactly. There was so there will be that going on in this podcast. There will be real life examples, you know, as things happen in each of our lives that we'll talk about. Uh, I've I just walked through a season that I don't know when we're gonna do it, but at some point in time, I know it's gonna be an episode that we're gonna that we're gonna debate and discuss it on, you know, or things that happen in the world uh as they happen that that we'll we'll drop an episode about that. And and here would be uh I guess my advice for for us or for you as listeners uh as as you go along this journey would be to just simply ask yourself, what is it that I can do as a man, as a leader, as a follower of Christ to be uncommon in this world? Am I willing to challenge myself and to be open to a challenge to live a life that is uncommon, to live a life that is countercultural?

Speaker:

Now, that being said, if you're okay with where you're at in life, if you're cool with being, I don't know, wherever you're at, then maybe this isn't for you. If you're art being a couch potato and you're fine with that and you're cool with contributing to the whispation of America, then it's fine. Go for it. We'll we'll pray for you. You're wrong. But you know, yeah, for anybody else, stick around.

Speaker 1:

Like, in other words, this if you have all your crap together, then this is probably not your podcast.

Speaker:

Oh, yeah. We should probably if if you do have all your crap together, please let us know. We should take notes.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I would I would love to. Um, and then point out to all the areas where you don't. But no, I'm just kidding. Anyways, uh, do you want to drop a little teaser about what episode two is gonna look like?

Speaker:

Uh yeah. So we're gonna start, we're gonna talk a little bit about leadership next Thursday. Um, specifically self-leadership. Because you can't lead other people if you can't lead yourself first. But if you're only leading yourself at a four out of ten, there's no way in the world you're gonna lead your family out of ten.

Speaker 1:

That's right. Well, I'm excited to do this uh this journey, this this podcast with you wherever the Lord wants to take it. Uh I I hope he takes it all over the world. But it's not for anything like we said in the very beginning of this that look, we're not doing this for you know, us, for fame or glory. We're doing this to be able to provide a resource for other other people to just let them know you're not alone. There are other people going through the weeds of life with you. There is a God in heaven who does love you more than you could ever possibly imagine. And we simply want to provide a resource uh for people to have access to with regards to whatever it is that they're going through in life, to live a life that is uncommon. So let me pray for us and then we're gonna get out of here. Father, we love you. God, thank you so much for your purpose, for your purpose that you have given everybody that's listening. I pray, God, that everybody who's who falls under the sound of my voice right now, God, that you would walk with them in everything, in every season that they're going through. God, that people would not say Jon or myself, but God, that you would hide us behind the cross. And ultimately, Lord, in everything we do, wherever you want to take this podcast, my prayer, God, is that you use it to touch people around the world for the advancement of your kingdom and to make heaven a more crowded place. God, we honor you, we love you, and we thank you today in Jesus' name. Amen.

Speaker:

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